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Originally Posted by samcol
Willravel, your statements almost sound as if everything is working as intended on the borders. Do you see nothing wrong with the way immigration is being handled? I mean should we even bother to fix INS and border patrol or are you just for eliminating sovereignty all together.
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I think that our econemy depends on the work these people provide. We should give them the opportuiny to work for a visa for the jobs that tehy havge to sneak over to get now. We should raise their wages, and then allow them to reapply after being sent back to Mexico. Immigration right now is a horrible mess, but the Minutemen are not the solution.
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Originally Posted by samcol
I think you need to re-examine your views on this issue maybe. I mean BUSH of all people is against getting control of the borders and illegal immigration, and I know you don't tend to agree with most of what comes out of his mouth. I mean think about it, the government absolutely loves having a large, uneducated mass who has no protections under the constution, and are thrilled to death to live under conditions which most americans would consider sub-standard, to work for below average wages and can't speak or understand the very language our laws are written in.
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Yes, yes, Bush IS a moron and most everything he says is either dripping with lunacy or corporate control...and this is no different. I think that a reorganization is in order of our borders. Yes, we should regulate movement across our borders. No, Mexicans should not have to risk their lives to get here. Minutemen are not the answer.
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Originally Posted by samcol
I've seen them in court. It's all yes sir, yes mam, no sir yes mam, please sign here, 'ok'. These people have less of a clue about the law and rights than the average American and that is really sad. This is creating new age group of slaves. No rights, working for next to nothing, uneducated, and unable to do much about it due to language barriers. Yes, the government and corporations absolutely loves a mob that they can control.
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This is a bit of a generalization. I worked in landscaping during HS, and worked with many very intelligent (from books, not school) Mexicans. I was able to discuss (in broken english) everything from advanced geometry to socio-economic issues between Mexico and the US with most if not all of them. Should there be more social programs for them? Yes, but there are many ESL courses in place already for them to take advantage of. I was involved in setting up an ESL class at a local church. The class was filled in no time and they all passed with flying colors. The corporations already have a mob they control, anyway.
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Originally Posted by samcol
Don't forget the pentagon waves that citizenship flag out there right next to the military sign up forms. Offer to get blown up in Iraq and you get your citizenship. If you are so concered about these illegal aliens where is your concern about their 2nd class citizen/slave status they are currently at, and what is to be done about it.
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Yes, the military option is a dangerous one that 'minotiries' should be warned about. I see this as a seperate issue from border patrol, though. If you're interested in saving people from being entrapped by military service, do what I do. I got the recruiters kicked out of 2 local malls, 4 local high schools, and am working on a local JC.