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Mojo_PeiPei · 03-20-2006, 09:38 PM

Biting on the threadjack above... I still cannot fathom how the wiretaps, as of yet, equate to a constitutional crisis. For one the President is the COmmander-in-Chief. As such he has inherent powers, he also has delegated powers, where he is allowed to act. Actions have been challenged, they have been upheld, as I pointed out here in my FISA COURT REVIEW THREAD (http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=101670). Then there are all of those Gitmo detentions threads which other court decisions, Quirin, Haupt, Rasul, Hamdi, have again upheld. I don't know where the disconnection is, the Courts are the interpretors of the law, seems to me if any actions are allowed then they are legal.

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In a constitutional crisis, don't know how I'd react.

To me one of the most real constitutional threats has been grossly overlooked here, perhaps even ignored, I think Ustwo might've brought it up in the past; to bring it up, the SC fucked up big time on the eminent domain ruling not to long ago. I would think that private property would trump any government policy which is grossly left open to abuse and expense at the hands of the citizenry.

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But then again I suppose, a true constitutional crisis would stem deeper and negate the government as a whole. Couldn't look to the courts, but who is one to rely on one ownes judgement, and what would make any other person my steward or correction in light of such a dire situation?

03-20-2006, 09:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei Kiss of Death Location: Perpetual wind and sorrow	Biting on the threadjack above... I still cannot fathom how the wiretaps, as of yet, equate to a constitutional crisis. For one the President is the COmmander-in-Chief. As such he has inherent powers, he also has delegated powers, where he is allowed to act. Actions have been challenged, they have been upheld, as I pointed out here in my FISA COURT REVIEW THREAD (http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=101670). Then there are all of those Gitmo detentions threads which other court decisions, Quirin, Haupt, Rasul, Hamdi, have again upheld. I don't know where the disconnection is, the Courts are the interpretors of the law, seems to me if any actions are allowed then they are legal. ------------------------------------------------------------ In a constitutional crisis, don't know how I'd react. To me one of the most real constitutional threats has been grossly overlooked here, perhaps even ignored, I think Ustwo might've brought it up in the past; to bring it up, the SC fucked up big time on the eminent domain ruling not to long ago. I would think that private property would trump any government policy which is grossly left open to abuse and expense at the hands of the citizenry. ------------------------------------------------------------ But then again I suppose, a true constitutional crisis would stem deeper and negate the government as a whole. Couldn't look to the courts, but who is one to rely on one ownes judgement, and what would make any other person my steward or correction in light of such a dire situation? __________________ To win a war you must serve no master but your ambition.