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Originally Posted by willravel
Violence as a solution to any problem is beneith us all.
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Point taken.
I would give 2 quick, contemporary, obvious examples to the contrary: Japan & Germany post-WW2.
Transformed by violence into modern, dignified, thriving, contributing, empowered, leading societies engaged peacefully with the rest of the world, despite ethnic and religious differences.
The point is that there is, I believe, productive violence, and non-productive violence.