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Old 03-03-2006, 08:11 AM   #32 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by highthief
You need to post hard facts, as others have done, not opinions.

Posting that you spend 5% of your income (which is false, part of your tax dollars already go towards health coverage in the form of Medic-aid and money you might otherwise receive in terms of a salary are instead diverted by your employer towards medical coverage) means zero. If you make, for example, 1 million a year, and you spend 5% that's 50 grand. If you make $100,000, then you are spending 5K. It doesn't mean anything to the overall debate.

The numbers that matter are things like percentage of tax dollars plus money paid by individuals for private coverage plus dollars paid by employers towards health coverage. Or, numbers such as percentage of GDP.

The paucity of such figures from "your side" of the debate is astonishing, and perhaps, revealing.

Here is a link to a summary of a recorded symposium, the participants all doctors think there are problems with waiting times and shortages of resources. In my opinion other than spending more money no solutions were presented. They can shuffle the folks on the list but waiting times will continue to get worse.

http://www.wcwl.org/media/pdf/librar..._papers.13.pdf

Let's be fair. I was not the first to bring up % of gross income being spent on health insurance, why didn't you make your points when it first came up? However, what is meaningful to my response to that point was not the % I pay but the implied challenge.

If a person paying 20% of their gross income on healthcare insurance actively researched and evaluated their options, they could easily lower that percent or their total out of pocket costs. To me, a real person, experiencing a real result is the best kind of "fact", don't you agree?

Just like I will ask you, since you are in Canada. How long have your wait time been? How long were they 5 years ago, 10 years ago?

Do you actually dispute that wait time are getting worse?

Perhaps I made a poor assumption, I initially did not think we needed facts to prove that the wait times in Canada were getting worse, and that being the reason for the increase of illegal private clinics in Canada.
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