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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
First off, a leader under the American system, can only operate under a legal capacity, that again is the constitution. I care for one.
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The legality of the Iraq war, at least the legality under US law, was never an issue, right or left. It's a strawman to suggest otherwise. Because US law was never an issue in the Iraq war, why are you mentioning it?
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
And not to thread jack, and not to mudsling, I'm sorry it comes down to it, but, several members here on the "left" often apply to some relative subjective approach to reality, what makes your moral compass so right? I find abortion completely abhorrent, yet it is legal.
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The argument I am making is that the Iraqi war has yielded no positive results. If I can prove this is true, then the moral compas becomes moot, as logic becomes a primary argument against the war. If, legistically, the war had no positive results for either the US or iraq, then Bushco was clearly not justified in starting it.
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
A true leader, and please don't even equate Bush to this mold, is as moral as a hurricane to quote a pretentious and fabeled fictious TV character. America has it's needs, it is completely stupid to ignore Iraq as a matter of policy, and lineated necessity for our policy needs. At best it is extremely short sighted, but by and large is ignorant of the real world political scheme. As such it is neither stupid, nor unnecessary.
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A true leader works with allies and subordinates in order to benifit all parties, does not work from a throne, is open to all the options, finishes the job he or she starts, knows that leadership skills come from learning, and can accept credit for his or her failings, and responsibility for his or her failures.
The Iraq War was not and is not one of America's needs. I am not suggesting that we completly ignored Iraq, but to accuse them of having weapons and links to an attack on US soil, only to find both are totally wrong....well that's bad policy.