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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Then honestly what you need to do as moderators is continue to move those points of view which can not be rationaly discussed to the forum where it belongs and operates on a 'lower' standard of logic.
I know this has been done to a good degree, but what politics has become is slightly better than parinoia.
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Ustwo, I apologize if I was unclear, but I meant that if you (a specific poster) can't discuss anymore, not if no one could discuss it anymore. And I do think you're right that the line between politics and paranoia can seem fuzzy - but that's just the nature of the beast... 6 months can make topics from paranoia into headline news, or valid discussions into the territory of tinfoil hat wearers.
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
Hell I'd like to see a lot more peoples thoughts and why they feel that way instead of needed to cut and paste a link from a website.
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I'm completely with you on this one - and I'm not saying that as a jab at any one or two posters. Outside of a thread starter, links and quotes should be like footnotes to a book - supporting the point described in the poster's own words. That's the meaning of a discussion forum.
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Originally Posted by smooth
...this issue isn't even remotely new to this part of tfp....but in the past it's been my understanding that this section had basically reached a pont where it was useful for seperating the wheat from the chaff, and pretty much only that.
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Obviously you are exactly correct... Politics has been a concern for years now (we've all seen the new stickies at the top and the new policies that have come and gone). It would be sad to me if we were nothing more than a ban-trap though... In terms of forum goals, Politics has tremendous potential for growth. It's a good place for people to learn to understand each other. I'm just looking to foster some discussion on ideas to realize that potential. As I said before, suggestions and ideas are quite welcome.
With that said, I'd like to get this thread back on track and hear more about modes of dialogue.