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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
Google "no fly zone."
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Shooting war and "no fly zone are totally different. you want me to believe that Saddam was actually firing on the troops we had there?
Occasionally he shot at our planes and we dropped a bomb or 2.... but then Clinton was always blamed for trying to get attention off his "scandals" whenever he did do anything.....
But show me where we had a true shooting war over there, between where we invaded and after the Gulf War.
You can't so we were "in a shooting war" nor was Saddam a threat.
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Nope. It's pointing out a very embarrassing statement on your part.
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I'm not embarassed by anything I say. You prove me wrong, I'll admit I was wrong. But you attack me as you did above and you get that response.
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Nineteen or so are dead from the plane crashes. If I knew where the rest were, they wouldn't be there, now would they? 
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If you are alluding to the terrorists of 9/11 they were all here legally. So to imply ANY of them were here illegally is false and you know it.
If you are alluding to otherwise, I am not following because I was talking about Bush and his lack of protecting us from illegal aliens that I believe contain terrorist cells. I don't believe in a "War on Terror" that leaves our borders wide open to illegal, undocumented aliens coming over by the 1000's.
To me leaving the borders open, like Bush does, and then using "the War on Terror" as an excuse to tap phones illegally and open mail illegally, or have a WH legal spokesman say the president has the right to execute suspected terrorists (as reported in Newsweek link here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11180519/site/newsweek) .... is an excuse and a smokescreen to get away with whatever the Hell he wants to do.
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This makes no sense whatsover. It's the opposite of what I said.
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So you agree Bush should protect the borders better and go after illegals? Not what it sounded like.
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No, it wouldn't, as I explained in another post.
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Where? Give me a link.
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I don't know about smarter, but since you didn't know we're still in Afghanistan, it's safe to say I'm much more knowledgeable. And once again, I have to remind you that our military, while very good, and very courageous, is not all-powerful.
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You're the one who brought Afghanistan into it. Where did I ever deny we were there? Nor have I ever stated anything but glowing remarks for our boys.... for you to insinuate otherwise is a filthy attack where you are throwing fake made up bullshit and hoping something sticks......
And yes it has yielded results but Bin Laden is still free is he not?
The topic of this is how Bush has flipped flopped on his stance on Bin Laden. 9/11 he wanted to get Bin Laden, promised he would bring to justice those responsible....... then flipped flopped as pointed out above that he didn't care where Bin Laden was........ then flipped flopped again recently saying Bin Laden was still a threat....... sooooo if that is the case why does he not go afte him?
You still have not answered if Al Jazeera can get tapes from this man why can we not find him? You hid that in trying to accuse me of ignoring or not knowing about Afghanistan..... yet never answered.
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I don't respect ANYONE who makes inaccurate posts because they have not educated themselves on the subject. Pointing out that you didn't know we're still in Afghanistan is not an attack on you OR your philosophies. Pointing out your misstatement that "WMDs never existed," however embarrassing it may be to you, is not an attack on you or your philosophies. Now if you want to see an attack, review the red text below:
Maybe you can show me where I've said "go screw yourself" to you, or anyone else. Including Elphaba, who has insulted me repeatedly with no repercussions, when she was unable to refute my facts.
Looks like we're done here.
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Yes, Marv it does look like we are done..... you have your beliefs and I have mine.