Originally Posted by SecretMethod70

This is a really important point to be made. I won't pretend to know what works in asking some random female out, so I can't give advice on that, but I do want to mention that I think shesus is totally right about friendships before relationships. Again, I can't pretend to have experience in the other way, but I've had nothing but success in creating friendships before "relationships." I attribute the fact that all my relationships have been unusually long for whatever age I was to the fact that all my girlfriends were first my friends. It really does make the relationship much stronger.