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Old 01-20-2006, 11:29 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
You forgot to add your e-mail address for all of the personal greetings you'll get.
Make sure you post the WHOLE post and not just what you want.

My e-mail addy is very open all you have to do is go ot my profile.

So if you served and you know all these people, then you should be outraged at the attacks for political gain on these war heroes' decorations and service.

You point to others military experience as though they have no right to talk because they know not of what they say..... That is what you convey.

And yet it is ok for DRAFT DODGERS to attack men who did serve?????

That gives me reason to doubt any of your credentials as being true.

I DID serve in the Navy, my dad's brother was a lifer in the AF and served in Vietnam plus was one of the chosen as backup for the Iran Embassy rescue.

One of my dad's sister's husband was one of the best AF fighter pilots in Vietnam, until he snapped and shot an innocent village. He retired and let us just state that he lived in the Middle east for sometime as a government representative. Later he lived in Oceana and taught as a civilian.

His 2 sons are both well trained fighter pilots and are among the best.

My best friend's father was Marine Recon during Nam.

2 of my father's closest friends were Marines who served in Nam and I have heard many of their stories as far back as I remember. NOONE was a saint in Vietnam.

My mother's father was a highly decorated Army WW2 veteran who served under Patton.

I have many contacts in the military from family, friends, my service time in and my profession.

THOSE are my credentials to speak out.

Like I said, you want to take on Murtha for his beliefs now, that's cool...... but to attack his military record is fucking bullshit and disrespectful to any man who served.

Why serve and get decorated if 20-30-40 years down the road, someone for political gain attacks your service and sacrifices you made for your country?????????

Especially by draft dodging fucks who now are so gung ho for war. You as a veteran should be offended by that.

Especially if you were so offended by what Murtha said and of the belief it hurt morale.

What I believe hurts morale far more is watching Fucking Draft DODGERS, who are fucking pieces of hypocrical shit, send people to war and attack war heroes while they did all they could to avoid going to war.

That is the true crime and topic here. Not someone who is posting here's credentials.

Do I agree with what Murtha said about Iraq? I don't know, to be honest I didn't pay attention, because I have my views and I don't need a politician to tell me how to believe.


Marv, you used to bring good debate but all isee in this thread is you attacking and being bitter..... yet not defending or refuting the attacks on Murtha's decorated military career.

It's bullshit, it's being done by power hungry pieces of shit and you know it.

If they truly believed in what they were doing now in Iraq, and they truly believed they were right..... then they would debate the issue and not have to attack a war heroe's record....... But they are, so what does that tell you????????
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