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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
It's not the "If you are not with me you are against me at all". It's just that Liberals don't merely stop at not supporting the war, and their "dissent" (if that's what you want to call it), or a lot of it, isn't helping the situation, it is making things worse and some of it goes so far it is treasonous.
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Back it up. I mean it. Gimme your sources, or it's pointless to pay attention to you. How can dissent of a war make a situation worse? Going to war in the first place is what made the situation worse. Not giving the troops the numbers or equipment they needed to do the job they should not have been doing in the first place, made the situation worse.
Circular arguments like the one you put forward are nothing more than Rovian bullshit. "We're going to war. Those who are with us are patriots. Those who disagree with us are not only traitors, but they're making the war, that we started in the first place, worse." The neocons have managed to scare the crap out of the people enough to get the people to go along with their bullshit war against someone who didn't do anything to us, but I think that you're going to find it harder and harder to justify the actions of your party with fear as time goes on and people start waking up to the fact that, hey, we're still just as vulnerable as we used to be, only now we've wasted a lot of effort by going after the wrong guy.
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It's baffling to me that Americans dislike Shrub sooo much they want to see us lose this conflict.
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It's baffling to me that you think that. Sure some probably feel that way. Protesting the war and wanting us to withdraw does not mean we want to see our soldiers defeated on the battlefield. It's baffling to me that you think wanting the soldiers to stay alive shows a lack of support for the soldiers. It's baffling to me that you think this war is winnable. It's baffling to me that you don't realize we lost this war before we fired the first shot.
By the way, has anyone noticed that all those terror alerts (condition ORANGE! DUCT TAPE YOUR HOUSES!) that seemed to be issued every 3 minutes BEFORE the election, haven't been issued SINCE the election? Gosh, either that means the terrorists decided that November was their cutoff date for threatening us, or, far more obviously, that the terror alert level crap was just another example of how Bush and his warhawks use fear to bring the people in line.
Frankly, I don't think we need an administration who thinks Orwell's 1984 is an instruction manual.