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Originally Posted by ziadel
ya know, I'd respond point by point to this, but you've never shot a CETME, or a G3, or anything like it, and therefore have no real basis besides to form any sort of counter argument...
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you're just restating what I said. I never claimed that the CETME was a crappy weapon - I only responded to your G3 worship and FAL trashing with every other opinion that comes to mind.
And to keep it all in perspective, your opinion and experience with the G3/CETME is no more cogent than those of my friends whose conclusions are entirely different than yours.
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Originally Posted by ziadel
I'd admit to shooting a full auto G3 if it wasn't illegal. but it is, so I would have never come across one, so not coming across one I couldnt tell you that shooting it wasnt as bad as many make it out to be. was controllable if you kept it within reason (don't go blowing off a whole mag)
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It's not illegal - If you're a civilian it's just a little more difficult (and may require a bit of travel) ... but it's not illegal.
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Originally Posted by ziadel
Now, why you would want to pay more for a gun thats cheaper to make, well, because its better.
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I'm still waiting to hear about your "extensive experience" with the FAL on which you can make your claims.
Are we talking about battle rifles or target rifles? When we're talking about the G3's crappy trigger you excuse it since it was intended to be a battle rifle. With accuracy it's the same deal - match-grade accuracy doesn't make a battle rifle. In actual battle the FAL's accuracy more than sufficient - so even if the G3 were slightly more accurate you should consider that it's not enough to make it a better battle rifle. You can't have it both ways. And an accurate rifle with a crappy trigger isn't going to perform much better than a less accurate rifle with a slightly better trigger.
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Originally Posted by ziadel
Now, seeing as how you;ve never actually SHOT a cetme and are getting all of your information second hand from internet sites, I'll prove just what a big guy I am and tell you the achilles heel of the roller locking system.
now, longbough, seriously, get your ass out there and beg borrow or steal a g3/cetme and shoot the fucking thing.
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Don't take my sincerity as permission for you to act magnanimous (geez) ... go shoot an FAL.
ahem ... do I even need to ask about your personal background with the FAL? If you, honestly, had any experience with the FAL you would have compared your shooting experiences with the G3 by now.
Face it, your opinion of the FAL is based on as much second-hand information as my impressions of the CETME. The only difference is that I've been honest about it from the start and you're the only one still trying to prove one system is better than the other.
... go shoot an FAL and I'll try the G3 ... deal?