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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv
How many have had guilt established, other than Cunningham? Guilty in your mind doesn't count.
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Fair enough. DeLay and Libby have been indicted, not convicted. Rove and Frist are under a fairly dark cloud of investigation, but there's no legal action against them at present. Cunningham is the only confessed or convicted felon in the lot.
What I'm pointing to is more of a PR problem than a concern about who will actually end up behind bars. In the eyes of the majority of Americans, according to the polls, all five of those gentlemen are dirty as coal miners, and the perception is that there are more rats in the woodpile. Whether it's true or not, that perception is what the Repubs now have to deal with.
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The GOP kicked Nixon out. Can you name a Democrat who received the same treatment by his or her party?
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The grounds for Nixon's impeachment were so inassailiable and egregious that the GOP had no choice but to fall in line with them. Those congresspeople get no credit from me for voting the only politically feasible vote. Besides, I said THESE individuals. You've got to reach back 30-plus years to find a decent counter-example? The GOP of the 70s was NOT the GOP of today.
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Okay, I challenge that last statement. Who's spinning it?
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I was responding largely to Ustwo's assertion that this was a case of the Republican Party getting rid of a rotten apple. Look, DeLay has been the rottenest damn apple American politics has seen since Nixon, and everybody's known it, and nobody did anything about it for decades. So I flat don't buy the spin that all these instances of malfeasant Republicans is a result of the GOP policing itself.
I'm also not asserting that the Dems police themselves either, or that every single Democrat is squeaky-clean. Nobody has said that, either, I'm just heading off a likely target of moderator wrath.
