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Well, Stevo, I guess we agree to disagree and see things sharply differently. (Of course by doing this and not carrying on this debate till we call each other names, insult each other's intelligence more, and spew true hatred at each other, I guess I am guilty of "surrender" as that is all we left seem to do.... according to another thread.)
But I have listed my facts and data and I feel the need to not justify myself or my beliefs any further. I am sure as you have posted you feel deep down the same.
We have shown those who are reading a good debate, they can ask questions and we can answer and refer them to more sources for which we have gotten our info, but I see from this point forward us just going in circles.
No offense to you, because my friend, for the vast majority you showed more respect than many posters on the right do. You took up my views and showed very culpable and extremely good points, as did I. It is up to those on the fence to decide whom they chose to believe.
And it is for time and history to determine which of us.... or perhaps somewhere in the middle to be right about the future.
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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"
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