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Old 11-07-2005, 08:31 PM   #33 (permalink)
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i assume that you are referring to the incident a few days ago that centered on the charge that the crs had lobbed a teargas grenade in to the mosquee bilal in clichy-sous-bois?
kind of a strange way to make the reference--almost seems as though you are talking about something else.
let's assume that you actually were referring to clichy-sous-bois
this article, which sadly is in french, talks about the incident:

http://www.liberation.fr/page.php?Article=335197

if you read it, not only will you get the story but also the same kind of language that has come to be dominant over the last week of so about sarkozy--and about the crs---and about the routine violence directed against the people in the banlieux who find themselves in areas like clichy-sous-bois--in fact you would find a whole series of tidbits, much like those i pointed to above, that render your intepretation kind of irrelevant--but it is interesting, your take on things, particularly in that it is rooted in some bizarre notion of a "franco-muslim psyche" which presumably lets you not think about, say, that most of the rioters are kids and that they themselves say that this is about the routine violence directed against them:

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,...-704172,0.html

and if you did any research into this population, you would find out quickly that the main muslim organizations in france are quite conservative, quite close to the french government and so would obviously have no real interest in or influence over these communities--in fact everyone who has actually looked at these riots agrees that there is no religious dimension to the action. including the kids themselves.

everyone except of course for the extreme right, which is inclined to frame its xenophobia and racism behind this kind of argument. spinning their interpretations in this way makes these lovely features seem acceptable. reasonable.
you know, like when you talk about some collective "franco-muslim psyche" that you imagine not only exists, but which is something you know about---that kind of thing enables folk to patronize others by assuming that theirs is not a complex experience, but rather is a simple, kind of mechanical thing that can be comprehended as the working-out of a few simple mechanisms like the "franco-muslim psyche"--with simple folk like that, you dont need research or context or information, nor need you worry about accuracy or anything else really-----anything goes.

and since anything goes, it follows that powerclown would post an article from some rightwing satirical blog, without attribution, presumably to pass it off as meaningful information.

it doesnt matter, all this, it involves brown people far away. and we dont like the french anyway. piss on em, all of em. what's to understand?
all this and an avowed preference for neofascism.
wow.
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