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Originally Posted by Ustwo
So to me suffering is not part of Gods plan, or being forsaken by God, but do to our own poor choices, bad luck (not that I believe in luck, just events with so many variables that the outcome is random for all intents), and the actions of others.
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Ustwo, I am going to have to agree with you for once, man!!
Really though, well put. I can't believe in an asshole God, either, though I haven't given up on the idea of a greater spirituality/"oversoul" (thank you, transcendentalists... Thoreau).
Which is why I really liked Johnny's quote...
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Originally Posted by JohnnyRotten
entity beyond the veil
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I haven't heard anyone use this language other than myself and a few old hymn-writers, so I was very grateful to see someone with a similar outlook.
There is something for everyone, beyond the veil...