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Originally Posted by Rekna
I'd like to point out that your argument for the seperation of church and state doesn't hold. First "seperation of church and state" does not exist, it was never in the constitution. The constitution says "shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion". The government is giving these people money because of the work they are don't not because of they are religious.
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I'm sorry but if that's the case then churches should start paying taxes. I love the argument you make about the constitution because if it was truly not supposed to seperate church and state, then why are churches 100% tax free, can hold primo real estate tax free, and can hold stocks, bonds and other commodities and not be taxed?
To use that old BS that the Christian Right uses and say "the Constitution just protects religion and says no law shall be made against it" is BS. Because if that was ALL the constitution meant then churches would be taxed..... they aren't and the Religions would have shit fits and cry unconstitutional if they were forced to pay taxes.
And to use the GOP argument on the poor...... why should we pay taxes for and to these organizations and people when they do not pay taxes?????
The hypocrasy of all this is astounding.
So instead of spending millions on welfare and putting tax money into tax payers hands, we'll give it to churches who send it to help ministries in other lands, send it up the chain so that the leaders can live very wealthily, and have political action committees to push ONE certain religious agenda.
It's BS because there is a nice percentage of people these establishments do not represent and you are showing favoritism and prejudiced (and I guarantee richer Christian churches will recieve the vast majority of these funds)..... it's wrong.
And as mentioned before..... if you think the government is just "reimbursing" without opening bureaucracies and prejudices.... you are in need of history lessons because that is what will happen, it has happened everywhere and in everything the government has thrown money into.