Violence if never a good thing. Sometimes it may be a necessary thing. I did not choose to be born into a violent family. I stood up for myself one time, I stood up for hubby one time. I have not had to repeat the episodes. So in that case violence or at least appearing to be willing to be violent helped.
I learned a good lesson in elementary school with regards to a bully in a grade above me. I had to stand near him in line frequently. He loved to punch the arms and backs of those standing in line near him. Everyone would inevitably say "STOP IT." Looking back I don't recall any teachers ever stepping in but that's another rabbit trail. I finally got tired of it and decided to take a different tact when dealing with him. I steeled myself and ignored him. I gritted my teeth and suffered several bruises. This only lasted about 3 days. By then he stopped. In fact he started talking to me and I had some pleasant conversations with him. From that time (about 4th grade) until the end of 6th grade he defended me quite frequently when anyone else attempted to pick on me. We were actually fairly good friends and I got to know his sister as well and was friends with her fer several years till our paths went separate ways. Most bullys desire attention. If violence does not work then they are forced to choose a different method. Turning the cheek is not my first instinct and I could not be convinced to do it with regards to anyone else that I love. But when it comes to myself, if it seems like a form of pacifism or ignoring the violent, blustering person might work (without endangering myself more than a few bruises) then I will try it at the very least.
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"Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama
My Karma just ran over your Dogma.
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