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SLM3 · 05-20-2003, 10:49 PM

Many Palestinians did leave before the Israeli soldiers got there. Is that really surprising to you? Would you wait for the soldiers to tap their guns on your door before you decided to leave? There was a war going on, what do you expect these people to do? Why does them leaving to avoid an oncoming army deny them any rights to their land? Also, many did in fact choose to stay only to be forced out at gunpoint by the Haganah, the Stern and the Irgun Zionist forces. Why should they stay and become Israeli citizens? The point is, they had no choice. You say a few have a case for reimbursement. What if they want their home back instead?

How can you say this area, so hotly contested for its importance to two religions (one the 2nd largest in the world), was barren and empty? I'm not surprised by your comments, they are common in the Zionist propoganda machine. The area was not underpopulated, it was a religious centre.

The doublestandard you present is remarkable. Bi-nationalism would cause Jews to be relegated to 2nd class citizenship? What about those Arab-Israeli's who live as 2nd class citizens today? In every aspect of life, from education to health care, being an Arab is a hindrance to them in Israel. Islam has always been accepting of Judaism. Mohammed referred to both Jews and Christians as people of the book. When the Spanish Inquisition started, where did the Jews run to? They ran to the Muslims for protection, that is why there's a Jewish population in Morocco. I don't pretend to make excuses for all conflicts, but to label Jews as 2nd class citizens in their history with Muslims is unfounded.

Your post reeks of religious bias. The Jews have been in exile? What about the constant Jewish presence in the region and especially Jerusalem? Israel is their home? According to whom? Are you gonna tell me God works in real estate? If that is your contention then there's really nothing more to say. Jewish prayers are legitimate enough to displace an entire population? According to Arafat himself, he was born in Jerusalem. Others say he was born in Cairo. There is no internationally accepted answer. For you to steadfastly claim one answer is intellectually dishonest. However, we KNOW that his mother and father were Palestinian as well as his family lineage. Is that not good enough for you? Must he be born in Palestine? Tell me, what is Sharon's background?

Palestinian natural growth will of course mean there are larger numbers claiming their right to return. Hell, Sharon thinks it's a good enough reason to expand his settlements. What's good for the goose...

Look at the conditions the Palestinians live in and tell me how they could possibly build a sustainable economy. Are you serious? Curfews, demolitions, destroyed power plants. This is an every day way of life for these people. How can they be expected to thrive under these conditions? Are we not seeing the same slums on tv?

05-20-2003, 10:49 PM	#63 (permalink)
SLM3 Insane	Many Palestinians did leave before the Israeli soldiers got there. Is that really surprising to you? Would you wait for the soldiers to tap their guns on your door before you decided to leave? There was a war going on, what do you expect these people to do? Why does them leaving to avoid an oncoming army deny them any rights to their land? Also, many did in fact choose to stay only to be forced out at gunpoint by the Haganah, the Stern and the Irgun Zionist forces. Why should they stay and become Israeli citizens? The point is, they had no choice. You say a few have a case for reimbursement. What if they want their home back instead? How can you say this area, so hotly contested for its importance to two religions (one the 2nd largest in the world), was barren and empty? I'm not surprised by your comments, they are common in the Zionist propoganda machine. The area was not underpopulated, it was a religious centre. The doublestandard you present is remarkable. Bi-nationalism would cause Jews to be relegated to 2nd class citizenship? What about those Arab-Israeli's who live as 2nd class citizens today? In every aspect of life, from education to health care, being an Arab is a hindrance to them in Israel. Islam has always been accepting of Judaism. Mohammed referred to both Jews and Christians as people of the book. When the Spanish Inquisition started, where did the Jews run to? They ran to the Muslims for protection, that is why there's a Jewish population in Morocco. I don't pretend to make excuses for all conflicts, but to label Jews as 2nd class citizens in their history with Muslims is unfounded. Your post reeks of religious bias. The Jews have been in exile? What about the constant Jewish presence in the region and especially Jerusalem? Israel is their home? According to whom? Are you gonna tell me God works in real estate? If that is your contention then there's really nothing more to say. Jewish prayers are legitimate enough to displace an entire population? According to Arafat himself, he was born in Jerusalem. Others say he was born in Cairo. There is no internationally accepted answer. For you to steadfastly claim one answer is intellectually dishonest. However, we KNOW that his mother and father were Palestinian as well as his family lineage. Is that not good enough for you? Must he be born in Palestine? Tell me, what is Sharon's background? Palestinian natural growth will of course mean there are larger numbers claiming their right to return. Hell, Sharon thinks it's a good enough reason to expand his settlements. What's good for the goose... Look at the conditions the Palestinians live in and tell me how they could possibly build a sustainable economy. Are you serious? Curfews, demolitions, destroyed power plants. This is an every day way of life for these people. How can they be expected to thrive under these conditions? Are we not seeing the same slums on tv?