Good lord. The kid mouths off to mom and you guys are advocating beating the hell out of him.
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hit the refrigerator a foot off the ground and left a nifty dent as a reminder
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That's called child abuse. You should have been jailed.
We do not do our children any favors by teaching them that violence is wrong unless someone calls you a name. My kid called my wife a fucking whore once. He'll never do it again, and I didn't have to maul him to get that result. Stripping his room of everything but a mattress and a topsheet for six months, and making him my wife's slave for the same time period cured that, and we got a great garden planted out of it, and I didn't have to bust one rock to do it.
If you can't control yourself well enough to avoid slamming your daughter into appliances or wailing on your kid with a broom handle you need therapy.