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Originally Posted by host
You have it wrong, IMO, moosenose, about you (your POV and how you convey it here) being "far less of a threat to me", than the "mods or admin" at TFP are. The mindset that it takes to write what you wrote in your last post, combined with your opinion that your point of view is reasonable, or even "American" <b>"then encouraged others to commit what some would call "acts of civil disobedience" and the rest of us would refer to as "felonies"</b>, is indicative of the gulf that exists between you and those of us who have an understanding and an admiration for the words contained in Thomas Jefferson's <a href="http://www.archives.gov/national_archives_experience/charters/declaration_transcript.html">"Declaration of Independence."</a>
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What's funny here is that according to your statements, you did NOT commit an act of civil disobedience when you committed your felony. Why? Because part of an act of "Civil Disobedience" is BEING PUT IN JAIL, and rather than do that, by your own admission, you ran away and hid. Remember Rosa Parks getting arrested and thrown in jail? Remember her being asked to move by the police, her refusal to do so, and her subsequent arrest? Remember MLK in an Alabama jail? Why was he there? Because he thought the law was wrong, stood up and said "This law is Wrong, I have broken it, arrest me." Remember Cassius Clay/Muhammed Ali? Remember his saying "I will not fight in this war"? Remember his trial and conviction? Remember his being in prison? THOSE were acts of civil disobedience. Yours was not.
BTW, by bringing up the Declaration of Independence, I trust that you are NOT calling for people on this board to revolt against the current government, are you?
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Is it your opinion, moosenose, that you could draw an analogy between my "crimes", as you label them, and a description of the activities of a child molestor, into an argument that would persuade anyone that your post is
"reasonable"? The only consistancy is that your tone is still threatening and designed to discourage discussion and protest.
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Actually, Pedophiles have a mental illness which drives their criminality. Your actions were the act of a sane mind, unless you consider what the British called "LMF" in WWII to be a mental illness. So which is worse? A mentally ill person breaching the social contract because of their mental illness, or a person who is sane breaching the social contract "just because"? In my book, the mentally ill person belongs in a mental hospital, while the sane person belongs in prison, because the mentally ill person essentially has a diminished capacity to resist his particular brand of criminality, while the sane person is FAR more criminally culpable, because he or she did not have a mental illness, but instead acted out of personal gain in the form of abrogating their duties as an American to avoid that duty which was imposed upon them by law.
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You are not "Federal LEO", yet you still intone that you have a "jurisdiction".
You mention your ""personal network" of friends and professional associates",
but you state that it would not be rational of me to view them as a "threat".
Why mention them at all, unless it is to try to "influence me"? Heaven knows
what resources are at their disposal, especailly the "professionals" in your network, to deal with the likes of me, if called upon.
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There are many ways to be an employee of the Federal Government other than being a LEO, and there are many ways to be an LEO without being "Federal". Many people have "jurisdictions" that are not "Federal LEOs". I'm sure that on your six or seven year oddessy prior to being pardoned, you found many "friends and professional associates" while tooling around in the underground. I'm sure that some of them were there for more than what you did. Does that make them a threat to me? You speak of "resources at their disposal", to "deal with the likes of you". Have you ever heard the phrase "Duty, Honor, Country"? They use their resources to deal with people who break the law, because that is their duty. They do not misuse their authority (be it Constitutionally or Statutorily provided) because to do so would be a stain upon their collective honor. And they put themselves in harms way to do their jobs because they love their country. They sure as hell don't do it for the money. And I certainly haven't talked with them about you.
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Consider that, in your own words, when you try to shift my focus from you, because of confrontational statements you've directed at me, to those who you perceive as most likely to "inform" on me, you likely demonstrate to more than a few of us here, how removed you are from what we consider being an "American" is; i.e., a non-violent, informed, reasonable, tolerant person.
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So I suppose those of us who don't think as you do are not real "Americans"? Considering the results of the 2004 election, I think you may be in the minority on that...after all, look at all the vitriol directed at the "Red States" after 2004 by the Left...
In my book, people who try and sell the slogan "Treason is Patriotic!" to the American People are misguided. And before you make noises about Rove, please refer to Article 3 § 3 of the US Constitution and try to apply it to what Rove is alleged to have done.
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The tone in your posts is inappropriate here, and in Amercia, from my point of
view. Nothing that I said in the following three quoted posts on this thread,
warranted the following from you. You still do not recognize it, judging by the tone, technique, and content in your last post.
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Ah. Now we're back to the Left's favorite Mantra: "Free Speech for Me, But None For Thee!" Remember how "First Amendment Zones" came into existence? That wasn't the RIGHT trying to muzzle the Left....
You have a point of view. So do I. That's the great thing about America....people can and do have different points of view. It's only when a person's point of view crosses the line from being a "point of view" and turns into a "crime" that there is a problem. This happens more frequently than you might think. For example, I heard on NPR yesterday about one of the so-called "Paintball Jihadists". The person in question expressed his "point of view" to his friends. His friends took action based upon his "point of view" as he expressed it to them. They are all in federal prison now, his friends for going to Pakistan and training for Jihad, and him for inciting and encouraging them to break the law by expressing his "point of view" about how they should go to Pakistan and train for Jihad. Basically, he said "Go break the law". They did. And he went to jail for it.