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Originally Posted by zen_tom
pan, I don't want to speak for roach, but the way I read it, when he says the 'nation is obsolete', I think he means the concept of nationality is obsolete, not that the US is past caring about.
As an example, note how effective a non-national organisation like Al Quaida can be in comparison to the nations they choose to attack.
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I understand but do you think Al Quida and the terrorists fucking care?
If we don't have a strong resolve and defense the terrorists are going to totally destroy everything we have and kill millions of innocents.
I am sorry being a confederation and having partisans running around with agendas that are what THEY want and not what is best for the nation, we allow this to happen.
It's bullshit, self righteous and hypocritical, to sit there and take advantage of what this great nation has to offer and then say, "it's really obsolete and not worth saving"..... as you accept college loans, or government help in someway: or "fuck those who don't agree with me, taxes are too high and the government is too over it's bounds." as you go camping in a national park, eat meat inspected by the USDA, drive on public roads and so on.
Roach's attitude will get thousands upon thousands killed and there is no fucking excuse for it except for some grand "I"m right, you're wrong" bullshit.
The terrorists are coming. There's a book out saying they have nukes..... whether they do or not I'm sure it's just a matter of time. I'm sorry I don't want to fucking fry or have radiation poisoning to look forward to for me or my children..... So we better fucking get our shit together and start finding ways to compromise and rebuild and save what we have.
Sorry, but for anyone to tell me this nation is not worth saving....... and expects to be taken seriously by me..... won't ever happen.
Perhaps I am old school, but this is the greatest nation on Earth when we work together but when we are divided we are the deadliest and most open to terror.
And I'll be damned if I let those inside or out destroy what I believe in.