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Old 07-11-2005, 07:28 AM   #134 (permalink)
alansmithee
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Originally Posted by dlishsguy
i quite clearly do remember saying that insurgents were NOT free of blame, but also that we cannot make the US free of guilt.

this nonesense about killing sprees is an overkill. but if you want to play that game......if the GM went into your office, slapped you round a bit, gave you a bit of a beating and told you u were fired for no apparent reason except that one of ure superiors was a total dick, and because of that you went home and went a killing spree, i'd say that the GM would have some onus of responsibility..yes
All I can say to this is two words that liberals (and yourself whatever your political alignment) seem to have a problem remembering and using: personal responsibility.

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well you obviously do not care to listen enough to these condemnations. i also rekon you cant off the top of you head name the 3 top muslim organisations in the US or any of the top US muslim scholars. (no google) so its obvious as to why you havent heard any condemnations..4 years later.

as for any major country condemning the recent attacks.. try egypt, palestine, lebanon, saudi off the top of my head. maybe try the english al jazeera website if need be. ignorance is not bliss.

as for the killing of innocents, i reiterate that the killing of innocents IS in fact questionable within muslim fundamentalists circles. being of a muslim origin myself, i have come across the whole spectrum of what is out there. and i have debated with most about these issues. some fundo's think its ok, other fundos do not. and there have been numerous internal debates about this issues within muslim organisations, families and individuals. you may not be privy to such information, but its happens. you can try and meet some muslims one day..you might surprise yourself.
You just proved exactly what I was saying. Civilized nations/people aren't debating if killing innocents is fine. This isn't something that any rational person needs to debate about.

And also, I checked al jazeera, and there was no mention of any arab nation condemning the London attacks.
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