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Old 07-10-2005, 03:16 AM   #112 (permalink)
Grey2000
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Originally Posted by jimbob
I think the right is to blame for terrorism and can't get their head round the idea that they encourage people to take up arms. Can you show me an example of Neo Cons accepting blame? This is a pointless line of argument isn't it?
Not really a pointless line at all. There's been an awful amount of attention paid to the consequences of the governmeant actions, but very little on how anti-govt/war activities have consequences of their own.

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We're told that standing up for what you believe in is what the terrorists want to destroy. Are you telling people they shouldn't take a stand? Are you unamerican or should america tear up the bill of rights and become a fascist state?
Well, actually I'm not American at all, but I get your point.

How do you decide when attacking your government is aiding and abetting the enemy ? I don't know the answer to that, but it at least bears thinking about.

And lets face it no bill of rights has been torn up, has it ?
You can't have it both ways, absolute security and absolute liberty.

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When you said earlier that there are unintended consequences of 'Painting your very own government as Nazis?', ie pointing out that some aspects of policy are not too far removed from what happened in germany in the 1930's, do you acknowledge the consequences of not doing so?
Oh, so that's what they do - 'point out' aspects of policy ?
The whole BushHitler brigade must somehow be a figment of my imagination.

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And surely there's an unintended consequence of not trying to understand terrorists?
Absolutely -A point which I acknowledge early in my original post, but we're talking about liberal-responsibilities here, not conservative.

Besides, which do you think pleases a terrorist more, being seen as an evil bastard who performs attrocities that are beyond the pale or,
being seen as a victim of US foreign policy, standing up for his rights ?
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