boatin

There is a big leap between someone saying the west is to blame, and saying the terrorists are justified in what they do. There is also a difference between saying the West has responsibility for it's actions, and those actions have consequences, and saying the West is to blame. I think in those differences lies the issue...


Most often, I have seen people say that the terrorists feel the west is to blame. I have seen people say that the terrorists feel justified in what they do. That is, the terrorists aren't 'crazy', they act according to their own internal logic.

I have seen people say/imply that to truly solve the problem, we need to understand their point of view, in order to combat it. Not just kill em all.

I have even seen people say that the west, the US, and Bush, in particular, piss off other people and other parts of the world, and that we need to stop pissing people off. That pissing people off has consequences.

I have seen people essentially say: If you walk in the slums at midnight with money hanging out of your pockets, you don't deserve to be robbed, but you shouldn't be surprised if it happens. That is, if you make yourself a target, you might get shot at.

(I'm not saying, btw, that we should appease anyone for everything all the time. But acting in ways that don't piss people off is a good idea at home, in the street, and as a country.)

In none of the above scenarios have I seen anyone express anything remotely like joy at 9/11.

I have even seen someone say that, indeed, the West IS to blame by us having the lifestyle we have. Haven't seen that extreme of an opinion much here. But even in that opinion, I don't see anything remotely like joy at the thought of people being attacked.

I'd sure be open to being shown examples of what you are talking about.


It seems to me that you read much into what people are saying, and that you miss the point they are trying to convey. I'm sure there is a lot of that. Myself included...