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pan6467 · 06-09-2005, 06:58 AM

See I grew up in a GM plant town and what I can say for fact is that there are union abuses, however.... unlike some I don't believe in busting the union, but I believe in management and union working together to build a better company.

I see GM as a picture of the country. People will take what they can get, for as long as they can get it and will not negotiate when they need to.

There is no doubt in my mind we have the hardest and best workers in the world. The problem is that people believe they aren't paid well enough (and there is truth in that) and companies are more worried about bottom lines and profit than their workers (truth in that).

Again somwhere there lies ground in between where both sides can work and gain what both sides want, however it takes both sides to be willing to open HONEST negotiations and to work for that middle ground.

Unfortunately, our society has brainwashed us so that we believe you take one side or the other and if you try to find common ground (even if it is for the best on both sides) you are weak, a waffler or hiding something.

So in the end it's a case of all or nothing and what we are ending up with is nothing.... and yet we could work torwards a better tomorrow if both sides made concessions and did what was best for the whole. (That is for every aspect of life and country not just GM).

06-09-2005, 06:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	See I grew up in a GM plant town and what I can say for fact is that there are union abuses, however.... unlike some I don't believe in busting the union, but I believe in management and union working together to build a better company. I see GM as a picture of the country. People will take what they can get, for as long as they can get it and will not negotiate when they need to. There is no doubt in my mind we have the hardest and best workers in the world. The problem is that people believe they aren't paid well enough (and there is truth in that) and companies are more worried about bottom lines and profit than their workers (truth in that). Again somwhere there lies ground in between where both sides can work and gain what both sides want, however it takes both sides to be willing to open HONEST negotiations and to work for that middle ground. Unfortunately, our society has brainwashed us so that we believe you take one side or the other and if you try to find common ground (even if it is for the best on both sides) you are weak, a waffler or hiding something. So in the end it's a case of all or nothing and what we are ending up with is nothing.... and yet we could work torwards a better tomorrow if both sides made concessions and did what was best for the whole. (That is for every aspect of life and country not just GM). __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"