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Old 06-03-2005, 07:43 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by stevo
And yes, terrorists in iraq believe the same thing al-qaeda does, if it were any different they wouldn't be blowing themselves up killing fellow brothers and sisters, only because they are seen as enemies of islam for cooperating with the new government.
Bollocks, the same deeds can have different motivations.
Some want an islamic rule, some simple want to get rid of the US.

A small article beside the american mainstream media:
An Anatomy of the Resistance to the American Occupation in Iraq

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Originally Posted by stevo
I don't know what you are saying, but I would consider what al-qaeda says to their own to be reliable. What they say to eachother and what they print in their handbook has to be reliable-it is what they are fighting for-from their own mouths.
That is brainwashing propaganda and you take it serious?
BTW: I'm lazy, I only read the first part of the manual quickly. Which is the part about the torturing?

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If you put two and two together you can see how alqaeda's claims of torture in guantanamo shouldn't be taken seriously, since in they have clearly stated that it is part of their mission to spread rumors of torture by US soldiers/officials.
If only alqaeda make such claims i would agree. But AI and other organisations also make such claims.
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