It's not that hate you because I'm conservative, because I don't, however I will respond to your listed points:
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Originally Posted by MooseMan3000
Alright... a couple of things.
1) This is not a law. It's not even in the legislature yet. It's the Attorney General, giving a proposal for something that might be considered to be voted on at some point in the future. It's not "California." It's one guy.
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Actually, it is in the State Senate, and has been passed out of committee.
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Since you obviously test rendomly anyway, you can clearly put one bullet back into the box from which you removed it. Adding a custom serial number would not be hard.
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Yes, currently random testing is done. Random testing with the proposed legislation would be difficult. You aren't adding a custom serial number to a box, all 50 rounds in the box have to have the same serial number. That serial number is also printed on the outside of the box.
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It's not some guy writing each serial number by hand with a laser pointer. It's a robot. It's not like they slip and fuck up where the laser is pointing.
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Yep, it would be a robot, controlled by a computer. When was the last time your computer fucked up and didn't work right?
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BAR CODES. ELECTRONIC SCANNERS. They've existed for quite a while now. Fed-Ex and UPS use them to track individual packages. Supermarkets use them to track products. What the fuck is this guy thinking? "There is simply no other way." Did anyone else notice this, or am I the only one who read the entire article?
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Yes, bar codes have been around for a number of years. However, Fed-Ex and UPS use them to track
individual packagas. Each package is unique. The legislation would require 50 (or 20 in a small box) rounds to have identical numbers and be packed into the same box. Since the number would be engraved on the inside of the case and the bottom of the bullet, how is it going to be read to sort it into the correct box?
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Some of us call those "hundreds." Am I to trust this guy's math? (Or grammar?) He gives no actual figures, no evidence for his sweeping claims that the price of the ammunition would skyrocket. But, of course, he doesn't need evidence, because California is bad.
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I read somewhere, apparently not in this article, the machines would run about $300,000. And I also have a problem with a company being the "sole source" of these machines (as claimed in the article).
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Has there ever been such a study? Since no states require serialization of ammunition yet, why would there be a study?
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I'm sure the manufactureres will be looking closely at this as this moves through the legislative process.
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Yeah, but the bullet's still there. Oops, you forget that both parts have a serial?
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Oops, yeah, misread that.
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See point above about bullets. Or, this practice could be regulated.
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What about people that reload and sell remanufactured ammo?
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Good point. Let's remove all regulations on everything, because criminals don't care anyway. Fuck, why do we have laws to begin with?
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Laws are like locks. They only keep honest people honest. I'm not saying there shouldn't be laws, but lets start enforcing existing laws instead of tacking on more and more legislation that restricts the already law abiding citizen.
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Wow. I'm not even sure what to say to that. I'm one of the most cynical people I know (in case you hadn't noticed), but I have a really hard time swallowing that one.
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Although I'm sure it's not the original intent, suing the bullet manufacturer will become easier. There have already been cases (in California) where manufacturers have been sued (and lost) for shootings. Google
Brandon Maxfied for more information on this particular case. I could go on about this case, but that's for another thread.
Personally, I think a far better solution would be to have 1) A balistics database for every handgun and 2) A spent shell casing database on every handgun. It has been found that most handguns leave unique markings on the case when it is ejected. Some states already require a spent shell casing to be submitted after the purchase of a gun. Some manufacturers include a spent shell casing with the purchase of the handgun.