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Originally Posted by KMA-628
First, you make this sound like convincing you of something is an easy task--I would argue that it isn't possible.
Example: Flat tax
Your core belief is that the rich don't pay enough in taxes. Nothing on this planet will convince you to change this opinion.
I don't see you as flexible at all. I don't see you as a person willing to consider another person's viewpoints.
You can agree/disagree with my take on you, but it really doesn't matter as that is the impression of you, left on me, by you.
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Nonsense. Now you are claiming that if I don't agree that a flat tax system is acceptable, I am therefore unwilling to consider another viewpoint. I could just as easily claim the opposite: I see no evidence that you will ever agree that the rich require higher taxes. Does that mean you are unwilling to consider another viewpoint? No, I don't make that judgement of you.
That you have determined that it is impossible to change my mind is a judgement born of your own perceptions. Much like your judgement that I am unwilling to consider another person's viewpoints. That they are both false is one thing, that you falsely hold me responsible for your judgements is another.
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I have a question for you: Why is this such a big deal for you? Nobody is forcing you to do anything here, so why all the contention?
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Because this is how we learn. I am actively demonstrating my point.
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If this is a form of discussion that some people mutually agree to participate in, what gives you the right to say we are wrong? Why go through this brain damage if it bothers you so much. What gives you the right to judge how we view this exchange? I don't remember ever seeing rules for how a discussion must progress, so why should we think that your way is the only way?
It's not like this is the only game in town.
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What gives me the right? I was born with the right to say you are wrong. And as I have said, whether you agree with me is irrelevant. If and when I feel like expressing my judgement that you are wrong, I will do so. I'm not interested in your agreement. If you agree with me, either you have given up (sacrificed) or the argument I have made was compelling. A compelling argument is not a perfect argument so though it may have worked on you, it may fail for someone else - I'm not going to rest on my laurels if it works on you. I'm going to continue to use and adapt my argument based on the quality I perceive in any counter arguments. Your agreement is the furthest thing from my intention - because we are not here to find agreement, we are here to disagree and discuss our disagreements. Why are we not here to find agreement? Because there is no sense in agreement on a discussion forum other than popularity or the intention of winning. Neither of those things hold even a semblance of value. Our agreement does not produce real-world results, it only produces the end of the discussion, the closure of alternative viewpoints.