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Old 03-10-2005, 02:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
KMA-628
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Originally Posted by roachboy
how exactly would you imagine people who operate outside this framework would be able to find "common ground" with you, if you define the range within which you are willing to work in such a narrow way? more specifically: why would you frame this common ground thing with exclusive reference to the republicans and democrats?

if you want a debate or a dialogue, you should probably concede up front that you cant stipulate all the terms and expect folk to participate...unless what you really want is less a common ground than an affirmation that the context within which political thinking operates at the mass politics level in america right now is either adequate to frame and address problems, or legitimate in itself. if that is your idea, then i dont know why you would go about finding that affirmation in such a backhanded way.

just saying--if you want the kind of conversation you claim you do, open things up and you might find it easier to generate one.
Well, I'm trying to see if we can keep it under control. If I limit it to just the generic "left" and "right", that brings the fences in a little closer and makes it managable.

If you operate too far out of the mainstream political spectrum, common ground would be too far extreme for the rest of us.

Example: For me and guy44, we might be able to come to terms that are agreeable to both of us. Middle ground to he and I would be exactly that, somewhere between left and right.

For you and I roach, middle ground is left of left for me, nowhere near the middle where I am willing to go.

It might exclude you, and I apologize, it is not on purpose.

Unless you see another way that offers a way to actually reach middle ground we two people are so extreme of each other?
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