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Originally Posted by Yakk
You forgot "and so much want democracy, they are willing to give up clean water/have themselves killed/etc in order to get it".
Remember, this is about forcing democracy.
I'm a fan of democracy. I think it should be spread. I suspect that many people would enjoy it's fruits.
I don't think invading nations, blowing up cities, using false evidence, institutionalized torture, and having abysmal reconstruction plans is the best way to do it.
War is neither the only nor the best way to move to democracy. I know the myth of the revolution is in the hearts of Americans, it isn't the only way. You can take those in power in non-democratic societies, and threaten them with death and destruction -- or, you can convince them that democratic capitalism is benefitial to both them as well as to their people.
Leave war as the last resort, not the first.
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Democratic capitalism is usually NOT the best for those in power in non-democratic countries. That's why it oftem seems it must be forced, there's no other way to get a ruling power to go against its self interest.
And I personally don't believe it's always best for the people, either. If you have some very centralized power, it is much easier to react swiftly to changes in a country. Democracy ensures that people have a say, but usually at the cost of efficiency.
Again, if there isn't a democracy in place the general population is totally at the mercy of the ruling power. If they are benevolent, the people will thrive. But as far as I know, there has never been a benevolent rulership sustained for any meaningful sort of time.