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Originally Posted by alansmithee
I haven't seen what other people define sexual orientation as. I provided what I think to show where my opinion comes from, as opposed to making groundless assumptions about what other people may or may not think. And it's debatable as to children knowing what sex is. In some western countries, age of concent is 12. And I would say that your inability to see the similarities between the issues shows your bias toward a leftist agenda and a refusal to even contemplate any opinion which doesn't fit into your view of the world. Your response to my claim of the issues being similar boils down to "it just is" without any logic or rationality behind it. And then immediatly after say how you try not to look down on anyone, which is clearly something you fail at. I also find it appaling your inability to separate the issues of race (something born and immutable) and sexuality (which is debatably inborn and can be changed). And how sexual orientation is any more arbitrary than any number of ways of discriminating against people's acitons is beyond me. Again your linking of the "struggle for gay rights" and aparteid is ridiculous and shows how little you think of the civil rights struggles of minorities. And since when is it a requirement to have reasons for denying benefits. The burden is to show why society is benefitted, which for all your handwringing you have yet to do. There is no innate right. And going by recent rulings in the Florida and Louisiana state Supreme courts, my opinion is at the very least legally valid.
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First of all, sexual orientation is as innate as race. Unless you're trying to insist that you could decide to enjoy being gay, which, you know, good for you. Most people can't. Second, i don't care how "you" define sexual orientation, because words need to have objective verifiable meaning outside of "well i think word 'a' means this so i will from now on pretend that everyone agrees with me on the definition of word 'a'." Sexual orientation is just as unchangable as race, you can't make the connection because your entire argument falls apart if you do.
It is ironic that you attribute to me an inability to understand the struggles of minorities whilst commanding an argument based on disrespect for the struggle of a minority group.
Some adolescents no doubtedly know what sex is, but i know you're not trying to claim that there are many preadolescents who possible understand what sex is. Therefore your point here is inconsistent.
You can attribute my perspective to "leftist bias", if you want. I have found that such labels are often just thinly disguised ad hominems. What does my political ideology matter in a discussion about a specific issue? I am not arguing for the left or the right, i am arguing from my perspective.
I honestly try not to look down on anyone. I don't look down on you. I probably wouldn't invite you to a dinner party, but i respect the fact that you probably do what you think is right in any given situation.