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Old 01-19-2005, 04:06 PM   #132 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei
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Originally Posted by Mr Mephisto
I'm with Coppertop on this one.

What are you going to say if they vote in a Shiite theocratic government? Surely the US is not going to object? America, the great defender of freedom and democracy!

Or do you only support democracy when it results in what YOU want it to?

Like Latin America. Like Algeria. Like (maybe?) Iraq?

If the people in Iraq vote for a Shiite theocratic government (as they could quite possibly do), who are you to object or criticize, and what are you going to do about it?


Mr Mephisto
I'm opposed to a theocracy if it's going to turn out to be something like Iran yes. Iraq is an ethnically divided country 55-30-15%. As bad as Saddam was, Iraq was a very good westernized country as far as practices of law and economics. It was a very smart country, highest literacy rates in the WORLD, and some of the best medical knowledge in the Arab world. I would bet the farm that this was because Saddam kept it secular, where you won't find so much repression as is common in Muslim theocracy's. After the embargo things went to hell.

I am also hesitant to give the Shiite majority a theocracy because it is not democratic, and they will most certainly favor the shiite's like the Sunni's were favored under Saddam's regime (that might sound in conflict to what I posted in paragraph 1, it's not). You are already finding them on the verge of a civil war with the elections looming.

The Sunni's are being little bitches right now. You have the insurgents in the Sunni provinces threatening and intimidating the vote, it's looks like they wouldn't get a fair shake even if they wanted to participate, which brings me to my next point. The Sunni's are being punk bitches and complaining about the prospect of a democratic vote because they are used to being favored and it seems a lot of them are willingly and defiantly abstaining from the democratic process.

I don't want a theocracy in Iraq, not next to Iran. It would be nice if we could see a democratic secular country such as Turkey emerge here. If it's the will of the people then fine so be it, but it will just lead to more shit down the road.

Yes Coppertop I take issue to there being a theocracy anywhere, I don't think any religion should be running the state, history has proven the two to not be compatible.
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