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Originally Posted by theburner
I disagree.
In a video game, you are playing against the code, AI, programming.. Whatever. So in essence, when you "complete" a game, you are beating the AI, Code, Programming.. etc. And the game is trying to defeat or beat you. The difficulty level can effect they tenacity the computer shows when trying to accomplish this. So in effect you are beating a game.
Look at it this way.. If you watch hockey, do you say "The Leafs completed the Boston Bruins, or the leafs beat the boston bruins." The leaf players certainly didn't take the bruins out back and beat them with a stick.
As far as that being "Lazy Language", I think it is more of a double entendre. Beat has multiple meanings as many words in the english language. Does parking in your Driveway annoy you? How about driving on a Parkway?
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See, I don't see it as playing against the code or the programmers. I am playing a game within the parameters of said code, the rules of the game, so to speak.
The Bruins and Leafs are trying to beat each other, in more ways than one. They don't beat the game of hockey when they win, they beat the other team. The other team who is actively striving to defeat them by trying to achieve their objective (scoring goals) while denying their opponent the same.
I just don't see video games as striving to defeat the player. Well, let me qualify that. Say you're playing an RPG, and at the end of the game you defeat the bad guy and the game is over. Was the AI bad guy trying to defeat you the entire game, or merely waiting there for you to find him and kill him (simplification yes, but it works). The AI isn't playing agianst me, it is simply there as an obstacle in my path. I would say this is truer for more games than not.
However, if you're playing say, Starcraft in a skirmish versus the AI I could see someone saying they beat the computer as both teams in that instance had the same objectives. However, this is not what I am talking about here.
How often do you hear someone say the game beat them because they never finished it? I've never heard that said once. Why not? Surely the player not winning is a victory for the AI, right? But you don't hear it. Ego, perhaps?