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Originally Posted by Manx
When it seems like everyone around you is crazy in the same way ... that might tell you something.
You have posted atleast a dozen times some information which supports your claim that all this holding people indefinitely is "legal".
When are you going to justify (your claim of) the legality of it?
Why should it be legal?
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How does the saying go, if a million people hold a stupid idea, it's still stupid right?
I don't have to justify the legality of anything. I think it's justified by the fact that our country has signed treaties atesting to the illegal status, as well as by our own articles of war and conduct signed by congress. I think it's justified by the fact that the constitution has granted the president and the congress certain powers, especially powers in war time.
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The Constitution thus invests the President as Commander in Chief with the power to wage war which Congress has declared, and to carry into effect all laws passed by Congress for the conduct of war and for the government and regulation of the Armed Forces, and all laws defining and punishing offences against the law of nations, including those which pertain to the conduct of war.
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Congress and the President, like the courts, possess no power not derived from the Constitution. But one of the objects of the Constitution, as declared by its preamble, is to 'provide for the common defence'. As a means to that end the Constitution gives to Congress the power to 'provide for the common Defence', Art. I, 8, cl. 1; 'To raise and support Armies', 'To provide and maintain a Navy', Art. I, 8, cls. 12, 13; and 'To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces', Art. I, 8, cl. 14. Congress is given authority 'To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water', Art. I, 8, cl. 11; and 'To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations', Art. I, 8, cl. 10. And finally the Constitution authorizes Congress 'To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.' Art. I, 8, cl. 18.
The Constitution confers on the President the 'executive Power', Art II, 1, cl. 1, and imposes on him the duty to 'take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed'. Art. II, 3. It makes him the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy, Art. II, 2, cl. 1, and empowers him to appoint and commission officers of the United States. Art. II, 3, cl. 1.
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Since when do you have to justify why something is legal? Why is abortion legal? Why can't I buy liqour even though I can vote, be tried as an adult or be drafted? Why must I pay taxes on wages I earn? Why must I obey the speed limit? Why can't I walk around carrying a gun in open arms despite never being convicted on any crime? Why must I apply for a license to even own said gun?
You may not like something, but that doesn't make something illegal. And as stated just because something isn't moral doesn't make it illegal, hello abortion!
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