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Old 12-17-2004, 05:54 PM   #29 (permalink)
Zeld2.0
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
I don't know what Islam is about?

Let's look at it this way, best case scenario the religion, one of the worlds biggest as well as fastest growing, has been hijacked by radicals.

Look at Sharian rule. Sudan, a country ran by religious leaders, as we all know who are running genocide on the Christians and animists of the south. Worlds largest and most active slave trade. Millions of casulties.
Slaves have existed in human society for thousands of years, long before even Islam was founded. Genocide has been a part of society for a long time as well. Remember Christians persecuted by Romans? Muslims have ruled over North Africa for over 1400 years and this genocide is new in that scope.
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Saudia Arabia. A country ran by the most radical and violent brand of Islam, Wahabism. A country that is one of the biggest supporters of terrorism ala Palestine. A country were it's 22 million citizens are forcefully indoctrinated with one major tenet, death, death to Israel, death to America, death to the West. A country that along with Egypt has given birth to the most current state of Islamofacism. A country that exports it's brand of Islam, wahabism, as one of the biggest growing schools of Muslim thought in the West.
Good to see the U.S. supports them though. But the generalizations are funny - leave Minnesota and go visit Saudi Arabia please. Or take some courses in history on that area and its people - oh and good job continuing the use of the term Islamofacism. Fascinating how one poster can influence us with a made-up term and never post again for nearly a year and its still in use.

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Iran. A revolution of the people put these despot Mullahs in power. No free elections, and wow another striking coincidence, another exporter of state funded and backed terrorism. A country that illegally is trying to acquire nuclear arms, upon resolution of their congress, to chants of Death to America.
Won't disagree here - they've been a long problem. But part of their problem is the people who put those religious extremists in power was because they led the fight against the Shah of Iran - a western leader. What was their cry? Kick the foreigners out. One thing leads to another..

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Pakistan. Although it is an authoritarian Military dictatorship, is a country run by radicals. Material support of terrorism is common place here whether it is in Kashmir, domestic were churches are bombed, or through support for Al Qaeda and the Taliban in the Pushtun regions.
Terrorist or guerillas? The fighting over Kashmir has long occured after the British left their colonies there. It has long been a hotly debated territory - a nation that doens't use its military officially to fight may defenitely fund freedom fighters.

Did you agree with the U.S. funding weapons / sending aid to anti-communist forces during the Cold War? If yes then you can see what Pakistan is doing - sending forces to aid people fighting their enemy without officially getting involved. How this has to do with Muslims is beyond me when India has been involved there as well.

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This is no longer a coincidence. It's out there in black and white, there is a clash of civilizations. I would like to believe that it is only by radicals, but the people of Islam aren't giving me much to work with as far as hope goes.
The same could be said by Muslims on Christians - indeed, if you flip it backwards, it would be "I would like to believe that it is only by radicals, but the people of Christianity aren't giving me much to work with as far as hope goes" Hell even people can say that today who aren't Muslim and are Christian themselves and don't agree with their thoughts.

What has the average white Christian in America done to fix other people's views? Probably not much. The same can be said of our view of the of the average Muslim

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