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Old 12-15-2004, 08:01 PM   #66 (permalink)
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First of all, it ignores the possibility that we might have some sort of 'sixth sense', such that we can sense the supernatural
If we could sense it, it wouldn't be supernatural anymore. Furthermore, our senses don't define rational. UV or infrared light is invisible to us, but we understand us. If all of a sudden, a wormhole began depositing bricks in my backyard, and we couldn't understand the wormhole, i might think that something supernatural was happening.

<i>From my frame of reference</i> there wouldn't be a way to tell. A non-human observer who did understand the wormhole might know it was natural. I couldn't tell, becuase i had no foundational knowledge on which to base that distinction.

I don't understand how a priori knowledge alters the arguement. I'm talking about collective human wisdom, and i don't think we as humans have a priori knowledge, at least in terms of the physical realm.

if we saw an incarnation, we would by definition misunderstand it. an incarnation is a limited and kenotic form that reduces what God /the supernatural is so that we can see and otherwise interact with it, with out blowing our minds out our ears.

in your 4th arugment, you're still leaving something open.

what if the wormhole was depositing invisible and air-soluable bricks in to the room. we hear them, and can't find a natural cause. but the wormhole is just a cosmic anomoly, passing our understanding. we say it's ghosts, but that's only becuase we don't understand it.

i think the definition is still solid, and actually fits well with my understanding of the doctrine of revelation.
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