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Originally Posted by zen_tom
The point? That's a whole different can of worms - But I do think that we are doing more than just applying logic. If it was as simple as that, you should be able to program a computer to work it all out for us a la Deep Thought - and that just isn't possible. I'm not denigrating logic, or rationality, but I am pointing out their limits.
If we believe in science and logic without really understanding why, we are just replacing one set of fundamentalist ideas with another.
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How could we be doing more than applying logic? I understand intuition, but intuition applies to a philosophical discussion with no relevance.
I understand why we believe in science and logic, because science and logic do a damn good job of explaining the things that we see everyday. In fact, they do such a good job, that we can create technology based on our scientific understanding of the world around us. "The proof is in the pudding", as my old leisure suit wearing sociology professer would say. Creationism has zero value as a predicter of how things will behave or an explainer of why things are the way they are. We believe in science and logic because so far it has paid off for use to believe in science and logic.
Science as a fundamentalist ideology will be a problem as soon as science starts telling people how they can or cannot live. Until then, i think science is the ideal fundamentalism because it is based on adherence to finding accurate representations of our universe. Creationism is based on adherence to a single idea which has little relevance to anything anymore, aside from an "aw shucks look at how powerful our god is" kind of christian machismo.