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pan6467 · 11-19-2004, 03:55 PM

I am not afraid to talk about my "demons" this is not the forum to talk of them.

I brought out the fact that you stepped over the line and personally attacked me with no knowledge of my life by saying since I had rich parents I was bailed out all my life. I felt I had to defend that because that is not true at all. If you care to open a personal discussion with me, we can do so I am very open and honest about every facet in my life.)

I know what it's like and the hopelessness of being so poor and working a job just to pay the bills from last month. Where there doesn't seem to be a light at the end of a tunnel. A situation many face today.

I was lucky I had drive and determination and wasn't married nor had a house or car payments so I was able to correct my situation. But I've seen great close friends who had very good paying jobs and a nice savings lose it all because the company they worked for, for years, left or closed down(we won't talk about retirement funds they also lost). It's hard to see 30-40 year olds with families lose everything and expect them and their wives to work 2-3 30 hour jobs for pay that is still 25-50% less than what they made.

And what's worse and sickening is watching fellow Americans say that they are "lazy", "stupid", "don't want to do better", need to look at going to school (how they have to work 2 jobs to keep food on the table and try to keep their homes). It just amazes me people will blame the hardworking poor for being poor. To me that's a very sad way to live life thinking.

There are 3 things I'm passionate about in politics (Constitution and BOR excluded, everyone should be passionate about them as they guarantee our freedoms). Education, decent wages and bringing home manufacturing and a military that if they have to fight are as well armed and as well prepared as we can possible get them to be. There's reasons I'm passionate about all 3.

You say life isn't fair and therefore "an honest liveable wage for an honest day's work" is BS. I believe that way of thinking is not only greedy but shows why we have the massive disparity we have and why it is increasing. I think that quote is how businesses should pay their people.

Even Henry Ford, who would pinch a quarter so tight you could hear the eagle scream in pain said, "pay your workers enough to live and afford the product they make and you will have customers forever." And yet businesses today don't do that do they. Pretty sad when people who work at Wal*Mart have to go to Dollar General to shop.

11-19-2004, 03:55 PM	#73 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	I am not afraid to talk about my "demons" this is not the forum to talk of them. I brought out the fact that you stepped over the line and personally attacked me with no knowledge of my life by saying since I had rich parents I was bailed out all my life. I felt I had to defend that because that is not true at all. If you care to open a personal discussion with me, we can do so I am very open and honest about every facet in my life.) I know what it's like and the hopelessness of being so poor and working a job just to pay the bills from last month. Where there doesn't seem to be a light at the end of a tunnel. A situation many face today. I was lucky I had drive and determination and wasn't married nor had a house or car payments so I was able to correct my situation. But I've seen great close friends who had very good paying jobs and a nice savings lose it all because the company they worked for, for years, left or closed down(we won't talk about retirement funds they also lost). It's hard to see 30-40 year olds with families lose everything and expect them and their wives to work 2-3 30 hour jobs for pay that is still 25-50% less than what they made. And what's worse and sickening is watching fellow Americans say that they are "lazy", "stupid", "don't want to do better", need to look at going to school (how they have to work 2 jobs to keep food on the table and try to keep their homes). It just amazes me people will blame the hardworking poor for being poor. To me that's a very sad way to live life thinking. There are 3 things I'm passionate about in politics (Constitution and BOR excluded, everyone should be passionate about them as they guarantee our freedoms). Education, decent wages and bringing home manufacturing and a military that if they have to fight are as well armed and as well prepared as we can possible get them to be. There's reasons I'm passionate about all 3. You say life isn't fair and therefore "an honest liveable wage for an honest day's work" is BS. I believe that way of thinking is not only greedy but shows why we have the massive disparity we have and why it is increasing. I think that quote is how businesses should pay their people. Even Henry Ford, who would pinch a quarter so tight you could hear the eagle scream in pain said, "pay your workers enough to live and afford the product they make and you will have customers forever." And yet businesses today don't do that do they. Pretty sad when people who work at Wal*Mart have to go to Dollar General to shop. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"