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Originally Posted by KMA-628
So, yes Mr Mephisto, I will call you out on this one. I do not, in any way, believe that you were trying to create an "open" debate. While I appreciate the insight in your posts, I am not naive enough to believe that you created this thread without a pre-conceived agenda in mine. To me it is apparent in your opening comment. It is further grounded in the resulting discussion that ensued in this thread.
Until onetime2 and I, nobody bothered to mention that the discussion was missing information vital to the discussion.
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You know, I think you have a fair point. Of course I was trying to show that I believe Bush is mishandling the economy compared to his predecessors. Anyone who posts here has a political leaning.
So I accept my initial comments were biased and apologise accordingly. I
have gone on record as saying I'll try to find more appropriate figures or analysis... and believe me I've tried.
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Again, I enjoy reading your posts Mr Mephisto, and I know that you are more then willing to concede if your information is incorrect, that fact is very evident in your posts. You are probably one of the few people on this forum (that I usually disagree with) that is willing to do this. I appreciate this and respect this.
In this case, however, I completely disagree with you and your motives.
In my opinion, if you wanted to foster an open debate regarding a graph like this, you would have spoken differenly in your opening remarks. Maybe something like: "I know that there is a lot of information that isn't shown that affect a graph like this, do you think a graph alone like this proves/disproves anything?"
That would have opened the debate for further information to be brought in (which nobody did). It also would have shown that you acknowledged the ommited/missing information.
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Well, believe it or not, I wasn't trying to mislead anyone. But I think your criticisms are fair and valid.
Let me be the first to admit that I often tout the "I try to be objective" line quite regularly here. In this circumstance it seems my choice of words were unsatisfactory.
Having said that, I believe it's only natural to show some bias in one's posts. I believe you (KMA) are equally "guilty" of that as me. But in this case, you're right.
I'll keep on looking for more accurate figures, or ones that include things like interest rates and GDP.
Thanks for the insightful and constructive criticism.
Mr Mephisto