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Originally Posted by tspikes51
First off, I quote a post I made earlier, which I made in response to somebody who actually said that I was making a straw man (yes, he actually said "straw man"):
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The point is the movie quotes should be in the essay, not used as an afterthought 40 posts later. When you don't use direct quotes, you're liable to put words in people's mouths that they either didn't or wouldn't say. For instance, you state outright in your intro that
the movie claimed "Bush was on vacation 42% of the time in his first eight months of office," but that wasn't the movie's claim. It was a claim by the Washington Post and fully attributed as such.
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Yep. I said that Moore got his statistic right, and didn't criticize anybody for any statistic. I just pointed out that the way that this stat is used is deceptive.
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Except that the way it was used wasn't deceptive. There is nothing deceptive about citing a statistic from the Washington Post and using it the way it was meant to be used. If you have a problem with the statistic, than you have a problem with the Washington Post, not Moore.
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I said that too. Multiple times. However, my point was he manipulated facts to decieve the audience into thinking something that's not true.
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He presented facts that supported his
opinions, and in tern got those opinions from the available facts. I think Moore has made every effort to make sure they were accurate going so far as to higher "three teams of lawyers and the venerable one-time fact-checkers from The New Yorker" as he has stated. You're welcome to disagree.