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Old 10-05-2004, 08:03 AM   #28 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by OpieCunningham
We don't live in a jungle. We live in a society, an organized group of people able to affect change.
"Jungle" is symbolic for what it is like to exist in a competitive world. There are limited resources, natural laws (or "law of the jungle" or whatever you call them) determine how those limited resources are going to be controlled and allocated. Never in the existence of life on this planet have those natural laws not been applicable.
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I was helping as best as I can in a society that increasingly wants to remove that help because they say it's all your fault that you were stupid, lazy and weak.
Not True. If "stupid" (not as smart as those wanting the same resources you want), one can work harder. If you are "stupid" and not willing to work hard, it is your fault. I agree that there has to be a safety net for the mentally il, children and senior citizens.
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No, there are consequences for being caught - but even then the consequences can be minor if you are strong enough to brush them off. But if you don't get caught! Wow! The benefits are astounding!
I tend to think most dishonest people get caught and pay a price one way or another. I also believe everyone has to account to God. You are correct to a degree. However, I believe that people who are honest, compassionate and hard working, develop greater strength and are able to accomplish more than the dishonest, selfish, and lazy.
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There already seem to be consequences. But I'd love to know how to determine who is stupid lazy and weak vs. unfortunate, over-worked and suffering.
I don't. Results speak for themselves. If I work hard, but you work harder (all other things being equal), you will get more rewards. I then have a choice, to work harder or to accept what I get.
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Well, you let me know who "they" are, and then I'll think about feeding you first.
Again, symbolic. The strong can help the weak. But if the strong can not be sustained and becomes weak, everyone suffers. So, those who are able and willing to help others have to keep themselves in a position to be able to do it.

If you fly you know that in the event of a loss in air pressure, if you can you put your oxygen mask on, you do that before you attempt to help others. Same thing as I stated, but put in a more compassionate way, but it is the same "law of the jungle".
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