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Originally Posted by stingc
The American version may not be, but the Chinese version sure is. So is the Middle-Eastern version.
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Well, it patently is not! Otherwise they would not be executing so many people.
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Again, the Chinese version is quite cheap.
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Again, we had moved on to discussing the utility of the death penalty itself and specifically its use in the US.
But your point is taken. In China, it is cheaper. Perhaps that's one of its problems.
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Ok. At least the American version probably has this one done a little better than the other systems.
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Erm... OK. Not sure if you're arguing with me or dissenting.
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So is waging war. It kills quite a few innocent people too.
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Very true. And a very good point. Does one take one's opposition to the death penalty that bit further and take a position of total pacifism? You made me think and probably highlight an interesting contradiction.
Another thread perhaps? :-)
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It's not hypocritical. It is very different to condemn innocent people than to condemn someone who has shown that they have no value to society (or a negative value actually).
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Oh but it is hypocritical.
"You took a human life. Therefore we shall take a human life."
Hypocracy.
If you take the position "You took a human life. Therefore we shall exercise our desire for retribution upon you, by taking your life", then at least it would be more honest.
But you're still punishing someone for doing a particular act, by performing the same act yourself. If that's not hypocracy, what is?
Mr Mephisto
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So? Most of the world isn't christian, and those that are don't have a universal interpretation of how it should apply to real life.
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Well, nor am I but most Western cultures are based upon Judeo-Christian values. Heck, your President himself is a born again Christian. More apparent hypocracy.
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I'm not sure why the vans have people so upset.
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Because they are so clinical. Because they are mass produced technical apparatus designed specifically for the termination of life. They therefore, either explicitly or implicitly, are associated with other industrialized methods of murder such as the gas chambers used by Nazi Germany and/or "production line" like execution.
It gives people the heebie-jeebies. Myself included.
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If they really wanted to kill random people, it's not so hard. All police officers have guns... I would agree that China's laws are too strict, but that is a completely different issue than enforcing those laws.
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No one mentioned anything about killing random people.
Mr Mephisto