Seriously, coash, get off your high horse. Don't pretend that you are an expert and expect to belittle others by throwing garbage at them like
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Originally posted by coash
There must be something in your undergrad degree that is relevent?
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Originally posted by coash
from what you write my guess is you're still in the early stages of reading lifting literature, and my suggestion is divert your attention away from bodybuilding muscle mags.
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Truth is, you're not impressing anybody.
I'll swear by upright rows until somebody can convince me otherwise, and I personally haven't seen enough proof not to do them. In addition, I would recommend them to a beginner. I know and understand the reasons why they would injure, but it is a great lift to build shoulders and I wouldn't leave it out of my routine- at least some of the time. If it causes a rotator cuff injury, so be it, I'll have some time to work on my abs and legs while I wait it out.
That said, I wouldn't recommend Arnold Presses to anybody, because it's about useless.
Doing low weight, high rep exercises aren't going to build your muscle as fast as high weight, low rep. But, it is 'defining', according to coash's definition, because it sheds body fat, and adds vascularity and an amount of volume, as far as I understand.
By the way, I'm not going to pretend I know all the answers, so if I'm wrong.. Help
Edit: By the way, everything besides the flames in this thread are good ideas, and I would like to emphasize rows and wide grip chins for back, and bench/flys/incline/ for chest. Throw some decline in too for good measure..