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i just dont see how this particular line of argument gets any of us anywhere, really--the thread was about a correlation between attitudes toward guns and bakc ground--i think we are confirming the correlation over and over.
i wasnt being particularly sarcastic---i was rephrasing the argument---what i find is that it is sometimes difficult to maintain an agnostic position because the particular attitudes of individuals who are passionate about gun ownership sometimes leads tham to make arguments that make others think--geez--is this really how people think about guns?--and maybe even prompts anti gun ownership people to move further into their positions because they think the other side is simply nuts.
the flip is also true---the people who have gradually backed me away from supporting gun control were those who grew up with them and who did not fall into logic problems in trying to explain their positions. **they** got me to listen, and to re-evaluate things.
btw---not liking guns personally is not a limitation. it is a position that is as coherent as your is--for people other than you.
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