well gmails big weakness in my opinion is that they dont support pop access at all...
i found this program pop goes the gmail
that allows you to use pop mail clients with gmail
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Pop Goes the Gmail is a program that sits between the http://gmail.com web server and your email client, converting messages from web format into POP3 format that a program such as Outlook Express or Thunderbird can understand
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http://jaybe.org/info.htm
it took me a couple minutes to set up the software and another couple to setup the account in thunderbird... but it works great!