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pan6467 · 06-02-2004, 08:26 PM

Now people can truly see why we traded Bradley for "prospects" in Cleveland. He's a headcase. What's really sad is he is very talented but he just can't get a handle on his temper. Putting him in L.A. where the spotlight is 100 times greater than Cleveland was idiotic and will make his attitude worse.

He reminds me of Joey er Albert Belle. Another class act in Cleveland. The only difference between the 2 is Bradley unfortunately didn't have Hargrove and Hart in office like Belle had. Hargrove and Hart knew how to handle talent and the psyche of those who had problems. Hart would have never gotten rid of Bradley. He'd let Bradley perform and as long as he did, Hart wouldn't do a thing to the man.

However, history shows that Hart's method of letting the player do "his thing" led to short careers or potential that burnt out and fizzled once they left Cleveland.

Out of the great 90's Cleveland teams only 2 have played as well outside of Cleveland. Not Belle, not Lofton, Not Baerga, not Sandy Alomar, and Colon really hasn't (he has mental problems being "an ace"). Mesa could be argued but it took him a few years outside of Cleveland to get back what talent he had here.

Even Robbie Alomar and Matt Williams suffered after their stays in Cleveland and weren't the same once they left. It's why Omar refuses to be traded, in Cleveland he flourishes outside of Cleveland he'll be a flop.

Thome and Manny are the only 2. And Manny still hasn't performed to his fullest potential (he's injured and misses big games and is getting really flaky.)

Giles, Casey, Graves and Sexton don't count as they were traded before truly showing their talents in the majors. Some of the stupidest baseball trades ever involved those men. Cleveland had oodles of talent stockpiled and Hart just did not know how to trade talent for talent.

06-02-2004, 08:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Now people can truly see why we traded Bradley for "prospects" in Cleveland. He's a headcase. What's really sad is he is very talented but he just can't get a handle on his temper. Putting him in L.A. where the spotlight is 100 times greater than Cleveland was idiotic and will make his attitude worse. He reminds me of Joey er Albert Belle. Another class act in Cleveland. The only difference between the 2 is Bradley unfortunately didn't have Hargrove and Hart in office like Belle had. Hargrove and Hart knew how to handle talent and the psyche of those who had problems. Hart would have never gotten rid of Bradley. He'd let Bradley perform and as long as he did, Hart wouldn't do a thing to the man. However, history shows that Hart's method of letting the player do "his thing" led to short careers or potential that burnt out and fizzled once they left Cleveland. Out of the great 90's Cleveland teams only 2 have played as well outside of Cleveland. Not Belle, not Lofton, Not Baerga, not Sandy Alomar, and Colon really hasn't (he has mental problems being "an ace"). Mesa could be argued but it took him a few years outside of Cleveland to get back what talent he had here. Even Robbie Alomar and Matt Williams suffered after their stays in Cleveland and weren't the same once they left. It's why Omar refuses to be traded, in Cleveland he flourishes outside of Cleveland he'll be a flop. Thome and Manny are the only 2. And Manny still hasn't performed to his fullest potential (he's injured and misses big games and is getting really flaky.) Giles, Casey, Graves and Sexton don't count as they were traded before truly showing their talents in the majors. Some of the stupidest baseball trades ever involved those men. Cleveland had oodles of talent stockpiled and Hart just did not know how to trade talent for talent. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"