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Old 05-11-2004, 02:29 PM   #41 (permalink)
Zeld2.0
Cherry-pickin' devil's advocate
 
Location: Los Angeles
Well it comes to the question of far more needed or far more in demand... it's hard to quantify such things

Look I certainly understand what you're getting at and I am really against those who don't deserve the job... but in many cases, what about those that do?

My stand is pretty simple - I don't think its all that big of a deal especially since whites are still the clear majority in America and in most areas minorities are extremely hard to find

I don't like preferential treatment at all and while I think things shoould be fair, at the same time, I can't buy into either sides arguments..

Too many examples of "oh we were of the same qualification but the minority got the job instead" - and i say, suck it up and do better so you have an advantage

Then there are the "oh he wasn't as good but he got the job because he was a minority" - well, was there something you could have done to make it so you would win the job?

Its true there are cases where they'd hire the minority anyways (and that I'm against) but also take it from a boss perspective..

"These two guys do the same comparable work but one is willing to go on a smaller salary"

On the flipside there could be the "Damn the minorities, I ain't hiring one"

To me, people are going to end up acting in one of those ways I stated anyways...

But here's a view from a non-white perspective:

Even if there are more chances given, it's only a small minority of the minority that is going to get that most of the time. Top jobs for example are going to be handled by a small minority of the minority and even so, there are many more whites meaning there is a higher % chance a white will get hired if all equally skilled.

But the racism/discrimination I'm talking about here is that kind of stare or look or feeling of tension that may occur between the different races.. there is defenitely that feeling there. Ever been asked "what the fuck kind of person are you?"

I remember another time visiting Texas with a lot of friends on a journalism trip and being asked "do you guys speak english?"

What the fuck was my thought.

So yeah I rambled around a bit but here I come to the solution:

Rather than people constantly opposing integration of society as a whole, society as a whole can't fix any form of discrimination (be it at work, physical, etc.) until people are wiling to come in contact with others and see the other side as well as work with them. When all of society decides to move into enclaves (be it black, asian, hispanic, white, etc.) there is going to be a tension between races. And when there is that tension, hard feelings are going to come out whenver one even slightly FEELs cut out in anyway and will say discrimination.

So until people are willing to at the least feel there is no discrimination, people are always going to mutually distrust each other and will feel they are discriminated in one way or another.

And again as stated I've been fortunate that my family is very well off and I have achieved a top notch education and so I've been doing well, but that doesn't mean everyone should get the same results...

Equality of opportunity not equality of results
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