05-04-2003, 04:22 PM
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Insane
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Originally posted by james t kirk
I am proud to be on list 2.
And i would welcome an American retreat from its position of global bully.
Fuck you if you don't like that we Canadians didn't support you. I am still waiting for the big weapons of mass destruction discovery. Anyone, anyone????
The US gov't and George Bush have treated Canada like a piece of shit since Day 1. We were business as usual with Clinton, but Bush suffers from not only lack of basic intelligence, but also Xenophobia and we are tired of it.
Here's a thought........
50% of the natural gas used in the united states comes from Canada.
You don't want to respect our independence, well, maybe YOU should get tough on us and not buy our natural gas anymore. Turn off the valve then, I dare you.
Good luck freezing to death in the dark come December.
Oil, whoops, we are the biggest exporter of crude oil to the US also i believe.
Turn off that valve too while you are at it.
Have fun paying 10 bucks a gallon.
You want out of Nato, I say great, disband the whole thing. It's a US controled old boys club anyway. Total waste of money.
As far as the big savings on foreign AID goes, HA, most of the countries that receive foreign aid from the USA are on list 1 and gave the green light to the US. For example, Chile - the 3'rd biggest recipient of foreign aid from the US after Israel (No. 1 for some god knows why reason) and Egypt.
You won't even save a billion dollars.
Bottom line, I was very conflicted about the whole iraq thing. Saddam was an asshole, i know that. But he didn't pose a threat to the USA. He was contained for the most part. Sooner or later he would have faded to gray. There was no burning need to go in there guns blazing. There were two other proposals before the UN, neither of which appealed to the US. (The Russian and the Canadian proposals.)
Our gov't may not have thought objectively, but they did the right thing.
Out of Iraq in 30 days, what a laugh. The US will be in Iraq, literally for the next 10 years. It is going to be a quagmire that will cost you billions and billions of dollars. The only people who are going to benefit by this are the oil companies. The rest of you are just going to pay for it. The US economy is already in the tank, and getting worse and worse each month. Unemployment is up. Underemployment is up, the stock market is down and going nowhere quick, RECORD DEFICITS used to finance tax cuts for the rich old boys. Corrupt business leaders stealing billions and getting away with it - Enron, World Com, Global Crossings, Tyco, etc, etc.
You'll see, mark my words.
As far as NAFTA goes, i don't see it benefitting Canada one iota. You put tariffs on our wheat because our farmers are more productive than yours, you put huge tariffs on our lumber because we produce it more cheaply than you do and our gov't does not levy the same "stumpage fees" that your gov't does, i.e. tax. Canadian steel also is now subject to US tariffs.
To us here in Canada, the US just wants accesss to our markets without granting access to its own. I used to support NAFTA because i saw it as the free market. Letting the market govern the movement and trade of goods, and not gov'ts. Nothing could be further from the truth. The american legislators have never believed in free trade.
Scap it?
Please, do me the favour.
It's crap like this spew that makes me wish that we could be part of the European Union. They are moving forward, not backwards. Have you noticed that the Euro is now the dominant world currency? Have you noticed that the Euro is up by 20 some odd percent against the American dollar?
Sorry your feelings are hurt and all about a lot of countries not supporting the American killing spree in Iraq. But maybe you should ask yourself why that is? Is everyone else wrong and you are right?
Is it maybe, just maybe, that the people on list 2 had an arguement.
Have a good day eh.
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Wow, well put!
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