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Originally posted by clavus
All I'm saying is that if a group of people (i.e. Arab cultures) feel moraly justified in the torture and murder prisoners, and the intentional murder of innocents, then they should get a heaping helping of STFU when they complain that US troops are making prisoners embarassed.
In the last Gulf War, the Iraqis physically tortured and sexually assaulted male and female POW's. We didn't hear a peep from the Arab world about this.
That said, what the US soldiers did was wrong. But there is a tremendous lack of perspective going on here. Homophobic discomfort does not equal electrical shocks to the nutsack.
AND ANOTHER THING...if the reports of the US actually murdering prisoners is true, that is a whole different issue. That is wrong in the highest degree.
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Damn straight.
Does the media of our "enemies" scandalize reports of their own soldiers killing, torturing, raping and dismembering US forces in their own countries? Do they think there's a problem when their countrymen commit horrible acts of hate, destruction, and murder abroad? I don't believe so, and can't imagine they ever would, at least I've never heard anything of the sort.
I have never heard of hostile cultures' newspapers and TV putting out pictures of their forces abusing their enemies, and the whole country getting in an uproar about it.
They basically really, really hate us, and I can't imagine there would be any media/social controversy over there if their forces slaughtered or abused any of us in the worst ways possible.
This is one of the reasons why I value our way of life. I may not always support the President or the war, but I very strongly believe that our way of life is as close to being good and true as it can be.
Many Americans are in uproar over these reports of abuse, and I think that's good, in a way. It may be because of misinformation or skewed values, who knows, but the fact that people are questioning it -- whether we're making sure we are doing the right thing -- I think that's very valuable.
In this case, the critics are trying to make sure our armed forces are doing the right thing, and if it's anything less than that, then they (and *we*) are to be held responsible. I don't think that's too common among our adversaries.
Anyone follow me?