See, now if you get all reasonable...
I completely agree with this list. And I appreciate seeing it this way, I know that you have written of some of these things before, but it is nice to see it distilled.
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By the way, my take on the true reasons for war... It's a combination of many things:
- PR from the liberation of the Iraqi people (overestimated?)
- the final end of Saddam's regime and his *ability* to hide/create WMDs
- the end of the sanctions, which create a lot of anti-US feelings in the middle-east, justified or not
- oil and economy
- a warning to would-be dictators and anti-US people: fuck with us, and you lose
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To get back to the thread. As you say:
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this thread has moved from "The road to war was paved with lies", through "lies or not, it's politics", to eventually "Saddam's refusal to cooperate does not mean he has had WMDs".
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The place where we disagree is this:
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To me, this is acceptable, and actually very smart. The road to war was paved with half-truths and spin,
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You come close! You almost say "lie". But I probably can't get you over the line.
IMHO as a realist, I recognize the need for half truths and spin. Politics was always thus, and will always be. But I do have issues with lies*.
The American people, and the world, shouldn't be told that Iraq was a serious threat, with stockpiles of WMD. I don't believe our Intelligence Agencies believed it. I just believe the administration
wanted to believe it.
But I'm guessing we have distilled it down to the specific difference of opinion. Thanks for responding!
*Time will tell, we may never know, this is my speculations vs. others, etc. blah blah blah